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476: [Formed.] Lisa Bevere on Being Spiritual But Not Religious, What an Exorcist Said About Tarot and Oracle Cards, How the Progressive Movement is Connected to Self-Deification, and Why The Church is Too Comfortable Preaching Catchy Phrases Instead of the Word

Podcast · January 28, 2026

We live in a moment where spiritual language is everywhere, but formation is rare. Many people claim to be spiritual while rejecting authority, truth, and discipline. Others consume sermons built on slogans rather than Scripture, leaving their faith thin, sentimental, and easily shaken. The result is a generation that feels awakened but remains unformed. This week on Win Today, Lisa Bevere joins me for the final installment of the [Formed.] discipleship series to confront the cost of being spiritual but not anchored in truth. We talk about the rise of tarot and oracle cards, what an exorcist revealed about their spiritual danger, how progressive theology often drifts toward self-deification, and why the church has grown far too comfortable preaching phrases instead of the Word. This conversation is not reactionary; it is corrective.

If you’re hungry for real formation, grounded truth, and a faith that can withstand deception, offense, and cultural pressure, this episode brings the Formed series to its necessary conclusion.

You’ll learn:
  • Why “spiritual but not religious” often leads to unaccountable faith
  • What tarot and oracle cards actually open people up to spiritually
  • How progressive theology subtly centers the self over God
  • Why catchy Christian language weakens discipleship
  • What it means to return to Scripture as the source of formation

Guest Bio

Lisa Bevere is a best-selling author, speaker, and co-founder of Messenger International. Known for her prophetic clarity and uncompromising commitment to Scripture, Lisa has spent decades calling believers to spiritual maturity, courage, and wholehearted devotion to Jesus. Her books and teaching reach a global audience, challenging cultural Christianity and inviting the church back to truth, holiness, and biblical authority.

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  • Healing What You Can’t Erase: Transform Your Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual Health from the Inside Out

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