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324: Katherine Morgan Schafler on What Perfectionism Really Is, Emotional Illiteracy, and How to Leverage Perfectionism for Your Good

Podcast · January 18, 2023

This week, we’re talking about perfectionism, losing control, emotional illiteracy, and what Wall Street, Google, and children have in common. Joining us in Katherine Morgan Schafler, a psychotherapist based in New York City, who regularly contributes to The Huffington Post, Forbes, ELLE, Glamour, Good Housekeeping, Reader’s Digest, Bloomberg Businessweek, and In Style. Additionally, she was the on-site therapist at Google.

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Dive Deeper:

If you enjoy this episode with Katherine, I’m sure you’ll also enjoy the following:

  • 319: Dr. Alison Cook on The Cocktail of Codependency, Learning Surrender, and the Dysfunction of Spiritual Bypassing
  • 260: Self-Defeating Behavior, Living a Lie, and the Path to Inner Peace (feat. John Mark Comer)

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