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450: You’re Talking Too Much. Jefferson Fisher on Ending Arguments, Spotting Manipulation, and Reclaiming Authority in Conversations

Podcast · August 6, 2025

You’ve been told communication is about talking—just say your piece and move on. But what if the real power lies in how and when you slow down or even stop? This week, Jefferson Fisher—a trial lawyer turned communication expert—walks us through why the art of slowing down a conversation is more powerful than shouting louder. He unpacks the truth about overexplaining, reveals why emotional manipulation often hides in plain sight, and shows how minor shifts can resolve arguments faster than any volume ever could.

Jefferson also challenges the lie that talking proves knowledge. Instead, he shows why restraint builds trust, clarity, and real influence. If you’ve ever found yourself talking in circles, replaying conversations in your head, or trying to shout down someone else, this episode will give you the tools to stop reacting and start leading.

This episode will help you:
  • Learn why slowing down your speech calms conflict before it starts
  • Cut through overexplaining and speak with confident brevity
  • Detect emotional manipulation—guilt-tripping, gaslighting, passive aggression
  • Resolve arguments before they escalate
  • Discover why sometimes silence proves your understanding more than words

Guest Bio

Jefferson Fisher is a trial lawyer, NYT bestselling author of The Next Conversation, and host of The Jefferson Fisher Podcast, where he’s built a global reputation for leading people out of conflict through high-impact communication. His strategies—crafted in courtrooms and refined in everyday life—are designed to stop arguments before they begin, call out emotional manipulation, and help you speak and lead with authority.

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Resources Mentioned This Week

  • The Next Conversation: Argue Less, Talk More
  • Healing What You Can’t Erase: Transform Your Mental, Emotional, and Spiritual Health from the Inside Out

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