This week, Bethel Music’s Josh Baldwin joins us to talk about leaving and grieving seasons of life and reshaping our expectations for real peace. This is so important because peace isn’t the absence of conflict. Josh and I will unpack this idea with you today. We’re also going to talk about how anxiety affects relationships, and how it affected Josh and his wife’s marriage, as well as the supreme value of worship in shaping our emotional health. Suffice it to say, we went all over the map in this conversation, and I’m so thankful you’ve joined us for it.
Guest Bio
Josh Baldwin is a gold-certified singer-songwriter and worship leader who joined the Bethel Music Collective in 2014. He began his journey in North Carolina–where he was a worship pastor for 10 years–and is now a resident of Thompson’s Station, TN. Josh writes corporate worship songs for the global church, and his music expresses who God has been for him in every season.
Baldwin’s newest album, Made For More (2024), is his second live worship album, following his 2022 release, Where The Glory Is. This album consists of songs that Josh wrote from his heart for the local church and corporate worship, including the album’s lead single, and title track, “Made For More”. Josh’s gold-certified single “Stand in Your Love” reached No. 2 on the Billboard Christin charts and garnered his first K-Love nominations as “Breakout Single of the Year” and “Worship Song of the Year.” He has appeared on numerous Bethel Music albums including VICTORY (2019), Peace (2020), Homecoming (2021), and most recently on Come Up Here (2023) with his song “Time and Time Again.”
As a worship leader, Josh enjoys creating space for people to feel seen, encouraged, and invited into intimacy with God. Josh, his wife Sheila, and their two children live in Thompson’s Station, TN, while he tours domestically and internationally.
Dive Deeper
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- 382: Dr. Joel Muddamalle on Coming to the End of Yourself, Dealing with Inevitable Delays in Life, The Conversations We’re Afraid of Having, and Why Curiosity without Limits is Chaos
Self-Reflection Questions
- If the presence of peace is not contingent upon the absence of conflict, ask yourself, “How do I react to conflict in my life? Do I shut down, become anxious, or approach it as an opportunity for growth?” Conflict can be a crucible that refines our character and strengthens our relationships. Do you see conflict as a threat to be avoided or an opportunity for deeper understanding and connection? Consider the ways your reactions to conflict might be shaped by past experiences or unresolved fears. Is there space for empathy and open communication in your approach to conflict, or does it devolve into defensiveness and blame?
- Have you experienced a “leaving” or grieving season recently? How did you handle that period, and what did you learn from it? Life is a constant process of endings and beginnings. How do you navigate the emotional landscape of loss and change? Do you view these experiences as setbacks or opportunities for personal growth and transformation? Consider the ways these “leaving” seasons might be shaping your perspective on life and your relationship with the Lord through them.
- In what ways does anxiety impact your relationships? Can you identify moments when anxiety negatively affects your interactions with others? Anxiety can be a powerful force that disrupts our relationships. Do you find yourself withdrawing from loved ones when anxious, or do you use open communication to seek support? Consider how your anxieties might be manifesting in your interactions with others. Is there space for vulnerability and honesty in your relationships, or do you create walls to protect yourself from perceived judgment?
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